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PILOT AND HIS CESSNA 182 DISAPPEARS OVER AUSTRALIA

OCTOBER 21, 1978

It was the extraordinary disappearance of pilot Frederick Valentich (left) over Bass Strait on October 21st, 1978, that thrust the subject of UFOs into the news headlines around the world. The Valentich mystery has endured as an insoluble enigma. The crux of the mystery is just what happened to the young pilot and his 182 Cessna light aircraft – VH – DSJ (Delta Sierra Juliet) – during that October evening. The circumstances behind the total disappearance of both pilot and plane have since been elevated into one of the premier mysteries of aviation and for many one of the most intriguing elements of the UFO phenomenon. The fact that the mystery has lasted so long is a direct result of the incredible aspects at the heart of the affair. Twenty year-old Frederick Valentich, 47 minutes into what should have been a routine 69 minute flight from Moorabin, Victoria, to King Island, reported in a radio conversation with Melbourne Flight Service Unit controller, Steve Robey, of seeing an unidentified “aircraft” near him. The only official report to emerge on the affair was an Aircraft Accident Investigation Summary Report, reference No. V116/783/1047. The basic relevant events and transcript of the conversation between Valentich and Robey – a “radio encounter of a weird kind” – included in the report are given here:
The pilot obtained a class Four instrument rating on 11 May 1978 and he was therefore authorised to operate at night in visual meteorological conditions (VMC). On the afternoon of 21 October 1978 he attended the Moorabbin Briefing Office, obtained a meteorological briefing and, at 1723 hours, submitted a flight plan for a night VMC flight from Moorabbin to King Island and return. The cruising altitude nominated in the flight plan was below 5000 feet, with estimated time intervals of 41 minutes to Cape Otway and 28 minutes from Cape Otway to King Island. The total fuel endurance was shown at 300 minutes. The pilot made no arrangements for aerodrome lighting to be illuminated for his arrival at King Island. He advised the briefing officer and the operator’s representative that he was uplifting friends at King Island and took four life jackets in the aircraft with him. The aircraft was refuelled to capacity at 1810 hours and departed Moorabbin at 1819 hours. After departure the pilot established two-way radio communication with Melbourne Flight Service Unit (FSU).
Valentich reported in this transmission that “a large aircraft” appeared below him, then apparently passed over his aircraft. He felt it was an “unknown aircraft” particularly because of its apparent speed. It approached him from the east and seemed to be “playing some sort of game”, “flying over me two three times at speeds I could not identify”. Frederick Valentich emphasised, “It’s not an aircraft … it’s flying past, it’s a long shape.” Then he described, “it seems like its stationary. What I’m doing right now is orbiting and the thing is just orbiting on top of me also it’s got a green light and sort of metallic (like) it’s all shiny (on) the outside.” One minute later Valentich said the object was approaching his aircraft from the Southwest. Then the Cessna’s engine started rough idling. Frederick Valentich’s last transmission was, “…that strange aircraft is hovering on top of me again. It is hovering and it’s not an aircraft.” 17 seconds of open microphone followed with metallic like sounds hear, perhaps like the rapid keying of the plane’s microphone, and then silence. An intensive air, sea and land search followed over the next 4 days. No trace of pilot or plane was ever found. The weather in the Cape Otway area was clear with a trace of stratocumulus cloud at 5000 to 7000 feet, scattered cirrus cloud at 30000 feet, excellent visibility and light winds. The end of daylight at Cape Otway was at 1918 hours. The Alert Phase of SAR procedures was declared at 1912 hours and, at 1933 hours when the aircraft did not arrive at King Island, the Distress Phase was declared and search action was commenced. An intensive air, sea and land search was continued until 25 October 1978, but no trace of the aircraft was found. NOTE: The above image is a rendering.


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Is it possible for horizontal lightening (or something of the sort) to reach across the sky, be ignited from a natural geological product and zap back across, causing spontaneous combustion of a small plane in the sky about 5,000' in the sky......... with not a single trace left..........that may resemble a UFO???


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I don't deny that there are a lot of supernatural mysteries in the world that we don't know them yet, but I don't confirm UFO either. I mean, the most developed entities that travel by flying saucers to earth with speed of light.


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Re: UFO or No??
Hummm :-?
Well, I look at it like Bigfoot.
Years and years of UFO's and Bigfooters, and still no positive proof.
Why would aliens be elusive?
Maybe they are really high life forms that don't want to interfere with earthlings. - But, they couldn't resist gobbling-up that guy in the aeroplane! ..for experimental purposes.

Naww, I don't believe that stuff.


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I try to take these things on a case by case basis because I'm not convinced we are the only life source in existence, of all the planets, in all the galaxies. It's just to vast to rule out the possibility that "others" may be out there somewhere.
There are some pretty convincing evidence that people from all over the world, as far back in history as the Aztec Indians, the Egyptians and other ancient carvings and writings on tablets and caves that can't quite be explained away, that make compelling arguments to the contrary.
That said.........I don't believe this "disappearance" is any sort of indication that Alien UFO's had anything to do with it.
The only kind of UFO I can see here is either that of a natural anomaly that zapped him and his plane into ash or he saw something he wasn't supposed to see.
Like maybe he and his plane got in the way of some "secret experiment" or he saw something "secret" and died as a result of the "experiment" or "secret" just because he witnessed it and all traces of him and his plane were quickly removed, if there was anything left of it at all.
That also depends on what someone's definition of a UFO actually is.
"It" was an Unidentified Flying (appearance of flying) Object.
It could be considered a UFO I guess, just not of Alien Planet origin in my opinion. @};-

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I dont buy into UFO stuff either.....I think there are a lot of things going on we dont understand but as far as beings from other planets, nope :-B

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Lorelei wrote:
...I'm not convinced we are the only life source in existence, of all the planets, in all the galaxies. It's just to vast to rule out the possibility that "others" may be out there somewhere.
Yes, L ...I can very well imagine a planet, just like Earth, 'somewhere' in the deep depths of the universe. - We can't be the only ones. - But, I think they are probably just as much undeveloped as us.
It just doesn't make sense about them traveling here and being elusive.
(If they were more developed in travel than us, they'd have the upper hand in 'all' technologies, and not be fearfully elusive of us.)


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You're probably right.
If any ever have come here it was probably a fluke or an accident.
Maybe like getting flung through a worm hole or something just to see where they would wind up.......lol
Something like we would probably try to stumble upon another.
Then there would be the trick of doing it again in reverse to be able to report back.
I'm guessing it's not going to be very easy for them or us.
I don't think the human mind or body is quite evolved enough for trips like that yet and an alien would have to be very advanced to pull it off repeatedly........for curiosity's sake. @};-

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